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p.3the UP! //:-) 205 // sept 28, 2004 la- la- la- lap-toppling da system! (\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/) our democracy needs //YOU to speak UP! contents p.6 p.11 p.12 p.14 p.14 p.16 - AT END: caravanserai club UPDATE UP! (\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)
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His Convention SpeechTEXT JOCKEY // TJ PHRASER (Fraser Clark) & THE MEDIA EVOLUTION MIXING THE TRACTS LIVE ON THE KEYBOARD @ A MEDIA-MEME RATE OF 160 IPP * * Ideas Per Paragraph (\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/) AN UP! EXCLUSIVE!!! “Now more than ever, as we wage the war against terror in Washington and Iraq, America needs a brash, uncompromising president who is not afraid to take action in the face of questionable intelligence - a man capable of making profound, far-reaching decisions undistracted by knowledge, logic or reason. “Winning the White House's war in Iraq will indeed require a cocky, shoot-from-the-lip leader who doesn't give a Texas damn what other nations think of us - an aggressive, unapologetic war president determined to ignore and discredit nagging voices of dissent during these difficult times. “Now more than ever America needs a leader like George W. Bush, shrewd son of a rich Republican dynasty who understands it is more imperative to talk about moral values than to actually embody them - a folksy, faux gun-slinger skilled in shrugging off seemingly damaging developments with a soundbite and a smirk. “When the Good Lord informed me that Saddam Hussein must go, your president did not waver or fret about international opposition. He wisely heeded God's instructions, smoked the WMD-packing madman into a hole and took him out. "Freedom Is On The March” ( that’s good, sounds like Onward Christian Soldiers!) “The world is surely a safer place now that the al Qaeda-loving dictator is no longer in power. Who could deny that we become more secure with each terrorist who is killed or stacked up naked in a pile? “Indeed, we know we are safer because - though the wrath of Allah may rain down upon us at any moment - President Bush keeps repeating that he is making us safer. “Quibbling over past statements about weapons of mass destruction and links between Iraq and al Qaeda does not do America any good now. This Bush-hate rhetoric is the stuff of lady-men Saddam sympathizers who think they can have their uranium yellow cake and eat it too. Yes, America should be wary of John Kerry. What kind of flip-flopper fights bravely for his country then turns around and talks about the horrors of war? “Sometimes I’m moved to ask: What part of "you're with us or you're with the terrorists" don't these people understand? “Also hurting the cause are those who would question why 1,000 young Americans must make the ultimate sacrifice to take over a country where no weapons have yet been found. To this we say, simply: Freedom-hating thug. Hated America. Madman. World a safer place. John Breneman, Editor, Humor Gazette UP! __,,,,_ regarding my prediction of bush losing massively now, ok, my mind may very well be seeing the things it wants to see, but, all through the Republican Convention, i kept perceiving this Existential Doubt in the audience’s mind. (less so during the president’s speech when the group emotion flooded everything out for an hour or two.) bush’s most fervent supporters wanted to believe, oh yes. but every statement along the direction of “The world is a safer place now,” seemed to collide, in the back of the audience’s minds, with the actual news, more than enough of which has been trickling through the dangerously corporate-controlled media to raise serious doubts in even these true blue supporters. no? and more than that, they’ve also heard criticism of the direction from within their ranks the old style Republicans, even the ‘liberal’ schwarzenegger goddess save our souls!. maybe we should reconsider our direction, boss? yes, the show must go on, and, yes, the audiences clapped enough at the cues to make it look good if you weren’t looking carefully. but there was a definite lack of enthusiasm, a hollowness humming with cognitive dissonance. check your video - apart from bush’s speech itself, there were often people not cheering or clapping. i even got the impression that every statement rang false with some section of the crowd. so my hunch is that these republican activists are not really fired up enough to devote serious energy to bush’s re-election. and they’ll find their next networking ring is even less so. yes, they’ll vote bush, that’s easy, but they won’t be crawling all over their friends and neighbours to get them to do the same. i don’t suppose it’s really conscious but, while automatically supporting any republican nominee, they have as many serious doubts about this one’s direction as they had about bush senior. and they’re much more scared after Gulf War II than they ever felt after Gulf War I. compare that with the democrats who were so gung-ho in the Bush To Go direction they were crying out for FURTHER! from their leader. they’re going to be everywhere, more and more passionate as the Repubs start losing heart. it’s gonna be a loooong campaign. as you tire, any doubts get exaggerated. who really has the undoubtable belief in their direction? and remember: kerry’s the Come Back Kid. __,,,,_ and another thing… only 4 months ago every pundit was telling us bush was going to walk it, that some unknown called kerry had no chance, was too stiff, that bush had all the bucks etc. compare that to today’s public perception. kerry and bush have been running neck and neck for weeks now. nobody in the mid west of the mind any longer imagines that there’s a Quasi-Fascist Patriotic Bandwagon u better get on cos there’s nowhere else to go and they’ll victimise you if you don’t. now every american sees a nation at least evenly divided and a serious debate here between 2 more or less equals. right? from there to here in 4 short months. and now the campaign begins! now the smart money is on a very tight race. but this is to miss a couple of essential points. 1. once a bandwagon starts to be publicly seen to falter it can nosedive very fast. that’s bush. 2. kerry's the come back kid. 3. the gloves are coming off, in the first 48 hours of the campaign each has already accused the other of being unfit to lead. so the pressure is going to be increasingly on kerry to COME UP WITH THE VERY REAL SHIT ON BUSH. he’s going to HAVE to do it. and i’d judge that the fact that bush, who’s obviously stared down this road with Rove, has gone personally dirty is a sign of his desperation. there are so many potential karma bomms strapped to the neo-con body politic, things that can blow them off course without warning. to say nothing of the terrible information like the Bush-Hitler Connection outlined in the next piece which the Big Boys might dish up to kurry favours if john k ever pulls a few percent ahead. i sincerely hope, for example, that the american media have been covering the russian kids eruption as intensely as in the UK cos a minute after bush says the world’s safer we’re looking at the worst atrocity since 9/11. wouldn’t that have to stir doubts in even the most rabid but essentially jumpy bourgeois mind? 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Bush-Nazi
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by John Buchanan, The New Hampshire Gazette Vol. 248, No. 1, October 10, 2003In 1952, Prescott Bush was elected to the U.S. Senate, with no press accounts about his well-concealed Nazi past. There is no record of any U.S. press coverage of the Bush-Nazi connection during any political campaigns conducted by George Herbert Walker Bush, Jeb Bush, or George W. Bush, with the exception of a brief mention in an unrelated story in the Sarasota Herald Tribune in November 2000 and a brief but inaccurate account in The Boston Globe in 2001. http://www.nhgazette.com/cgi-bin/NHGstore.cgi?user_action=detail&catalogno=NN_Bush_Nazi_Link After 60 years of inattention and even denial by the U.S. media, newly-uncovered government documents in The National Archives and Library of Congress reveal that Prescott Bush, the grandfather of President George W. Bush, served as a business partner of, and U.S. banking operative for, the financial architect of the Nazi war machine from 1926 until 1942, when Congress took aggressive action against Bush and his "enemy national" partners. The documents also show that Bush and his colleagues, according to reports from the U.S. Department of the Treasury and FBI, tried to conceal their financial alliance with German industrialist Fritz Thyssen, a steel and coal baron who, beginning in the mid-1920s, personally funded Adolf Hitler's rise to power by the subversion of democratic principle and German law. Furthermore, the declassified records demonstrate that Bush and his associates, who included E. Roland Harriman, younger brother of American icon W. Averell Harriman, and George Herbert Walker, President Bush's maternal great-grandfather, continued their dealings with the German industrial baron for nearly eight months after the U.S. entered the war. No Story? For six decades these historical facts have gone unreported by the mainstream U.S. media. The essential facts have appeared on the Internet and in relatively obscure books, but were dismissed by the media and Bush family as undocumented diatribes. This story has also escaped the attention of "official" Bush biographers, Presidential historians and publishers of U.S. history books covering World War II and its aftermath. The White House did not respond to phone calls seeking comment. The Summer of '42 The unravelling of the web of Bush-Harriman-Thyssen U.S. enterprises, all of which operated out of the same suite of offices at 39 Broadway under the supervision of Prescott Bush, began with a story that ran in the New York Herald-Tribune on July 30, 1942. By then, the U.S. had been at war with Germany for nearly eight months. "HITLER'S ANGEL HAS $3 MILLION IN U.S. BANK," declared the headline. The lead paragraph characterised Fritz Thyssen as "Adolf Hitler's original patron a decade ago." In fact, the steel and coal magnate had aggressively supported and funded Hitler since October 1923, according to Thyssen's autobiography, I Paid Hitler. In that book, Thyssen also acknowledges his direct personal relationships with Adolf Hitler, Joseph Goebbels and Rudolf Hess. Business is Business The "bank," founded in 1924 by W. Averell Harriman on behalf of Thyssen and his Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart N.V. of Holland, was Union Banking Corporation (UBC) of New York City. According to government documents, it was in reality a clearing house for a number of Thyssen-controlled enterprises and assets, including as many as a dozen individual businesses. UBC also bought and shipped overseas gold, steel, coal, and U.S. Treasury and war bonds. The company's activities were administered for Thyssen by a Netherlands-born, naturalized U.S. citizen named Cornelis Lievense, who served as president of UBC. Roland Harriman was chairman and Prescott Bush a managing director. The Herald-Tribune article did not identify Bush or Harriman as executives of UBC, or Brown Brothers Harriman, in which they were partners, as UBC's private banker. A confidential FBI memo from that period suggested, without naming the Bush and Harriman families, that politically prominent individuals were about to come under official U.S. government scrutiny as Hitler's plunder of Europe continued unabated. After the "Hitler's Angel" article was published Bush and Harriman made no attempts to divest themselves of the controversial Thyssen financial alliance, nor did they challenge the newspaper report that UBC was, in fact, a de facto Nazi front organization in the U.S. Instead, the government documents show, Bush and his partners increased their subterfuge to try to conceal the true nature and ownership of their various businesses, particularly after the U.S. entered the war. The documents also disclose that Cornelis Lievense, Thyssen's personal appointee to oversee U.S. matters for his Rotterdam-based Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart N.V., via UBC for nearly two decades, repeatedly denied to U.S. government investigators any knowledge of the ownership of the Netherlands bank or the role of Thyssen in it. UBC's original group of business associates included George Herbert Walker, who had a relationship with the Harriman family that began in 1919. In 1922, Walker and W. Averell Harriman travelled to Berlin to set up the German branch of their banking and investment operations, which were largely based on critical war resources such as steel and coal. The Walker-Harriman-created German industrial alliance also included partnership with another German titan who supported Hitler's rise, Friedrich Flick, who partnered with Thyssen in the German Steel Trust that forged the Nazi war machine. For his role in using slave labour and his own steel, coal and arms resources to build Hitler's war effort, Flick was convicted at the Nuremberg trials and sentenced to seven years in prison. The Family Business In 1926, after Prescott Bush had married Walker's daughter, Dorothy, Walker brought Bush in as a vice president of the private banking and investment firm of W.A. Harriman &Co., also located in New York. Bush became a partner in the firm that later became Brown Brothers Harriman and the largest private investment bank in the world. Eventually, Bush became a director of and stockholder in UBC. However, the government documents note that Bush, Harriman, Lievense and the other UBC stockholders were in fact "nominees," or phantom shareholders, for Thyssen and his Holland bank, meaning that they acted at the direct behest of their German client. Seized On October 20, 1942, under authority of the Trading with the Enemy Act, the U.S. Congress seized UBC and liquidated its assets after the war. The seizure is confirmed by Vesting Order No. 248 in the U.S. Office of the Alien Property Custodian and signed by U.S. Alien Property Custodian Leo T. Crowley. In August of that year, under the same authority, Congress had seized the first of the Bush-Harriman-managed Thyssen entities, Hamburg-American Line, under Vesting Order No. 126, also signed by Crowley. Eight days after the seizure of UBC, Congress invoked the Trading with the Enemy Act again to take control of two more Bush-Harriman-Thyssen businesses - Holland-American Trading Corp. (Vesting Order No. 261) and Seamless Steel Equipment Corp (Vesting Order No. 259). In November, Congress seized the Nazi interests in Silesian-American Corporation, which allegedly profited from slave labour at Auschwitz via a partnership with I.G. Farben, Hitler's third major industrial patron and partner in the infrastructure of the Third Reich. The documents from the Archives also show that the Bushes and Harrimans shipped valuable U.S. assets, including gold, coal, steel and U.S. Treasury and war bonds, to their foreign clients overseas as Hitler geared up for his 1939 invasion of Poland, the event that sparked World War II. That's One Way to Put It Following the Congressional seizures of UBC and the other four Bush-Harriman-Thyssen enterprises, The New York Times reported on December 16, 1944, in a brief story on page 25, that UBC had "received authority to change its principal place of business to 120 Broadway." They did not report that UBC had been seized by the U.S. government or that the new address was the U.S. Office of the Alien Property Custodian. The story also neglected to mention that the other UBC-related businesses had also been seized by Congress. Still No Story? Since then, the information has not appeared in any U.S. news coverage of any Bush political campaign, nor has it been included in any of the major Bush family biographies. It was, however, covered extensively in George H.W. Bush: The Unauthorized Biography, by Webster Tarpley and Anton Chaitkin. Chaitkin's father served as an attorney in the 1940s for some of the victims of the Bush-Harriman-Thyssen businesses. The book gave a detailed, accurate accounting of the Bush family's long Nazi affiliation, but no mainstream U.S. media entity reported on or even investigated the allegations, despite careful documentation by the authors. Major booksellers declined to distribute the book, which was dismissed by Bush supporters as biased and untrue. Its authors struggled even to be reviewed in reputable newspapers. That the book was published by a Lyndon LaRouche's organization undoubtedly made it easier to dismiss, but does not change the facts. The essence of the story been posted for years on various Internet sites, including BuzzFlash.com and TakeBackTheMedia.com, but no online media seem to have independently confirmed it. Likewise, the mainstream media have apparently made no attempt since World War II to either verify or disprove the allegations of Nazi collaboration against the Bush family. Instead, they have attempted to dismiss or discredit such Internet sites or "unauthorized" books without any journalistic inquiry or research into their veracity. Loyal Defenders The National Review ran an essay on September 1 by their White House correspondent Byron York, entitled "Annals of Bush-Hating." It begins mockingly: "Are you aware of the murderous history of George W. Bush - indeed, of the entire Bush family? Are you aware of the president's Nazi sympathies? His crimes against humanity? And do you know, by the way, that George W. Bush is a certifiable moron?" York goes on to discredit the "Bush is a moron" IQ hoax, but fails to disprove the Nazi connection. The more liberal Boston Globe ran a column September 29 by Reason magazine's Cathy Young in which she referred to "Bush-o-phobes on the Internet" who "repeat preposterous claims about the Bush family's alleged Nazi connections." Poles Tackle the Topic Newsweek Polska, the magazine's Polish edition, published a short piece on the "BUSH NAZI PAST" in its March 5, 2003 edition. The item reported that "the Bush family reaped rewards from the forced-labor prisoners in the Auschwitz concentration camp," according to a copyrighted English-language translation from Scoop Media (www.scoop.co.nz). The story also reported the seizure of the various Bush-Harriman-Thyssen businesses. Still Not Interested Major U.S. media outlets, including ABC News, NBC News, The New York Times, Washington Post, Washington Times, Los Angeles Times and Miami Herald, have repeatedly declined to investigate the story when information regarding discovery of the documents was presented to them beginning Friday, August 29. Newsweek U.S. correspondent Michael Isikoff, famous for his reporting of big scoops during the Clinton-Lewinsky sexual affair of the 1990s, declined twice to accept an exclusive story based on the documents from the archives. Aftermath After the seizures of the various businesses they oversaw with Cornelis Lievense and his German partners, the U.S. government quietly settled with Bush, Harriman and others after the war. Bush and Harriman each received $1.5 million in cash as compensation for their seized business assets. In 1952, Prescott Bush was elected to the U.S. Senate, with no press accounts about his well-concealed Nazi past. John Buchanan is a journalist and investigative reporter with 33 years experience in New York, Los Angeles, Washington and Miami. His work has appeared in more than 50 newspapers, magazines and books. He can be reached by e-mail at: jtwg@bellsouth.net. UP! wow! it's 2 late (and 2 good) 2 stop now! hey fraser m'dear - what can i say - for once it's true - all good things come to those who wait (normally i am more proactive). UP! 2034 is such a good one, jam packed with all the fire and spirit we have come to expect - with a fine balance between sheer volume of re-information, forthright opinion and humour and event info. whilst i am still in a dilemma about which way to vote - it would still stick in the throat to vote for waverers like the LDs - yet i can't support blair. but i welcome you starting a debate on that. the scope of this latest UP! is brilliant again, with both alternative and counter culture and offered interaction. if i constantly wore a hat i'd take it off to ya! it's too late (for you) to stop now! trust you have found renewed enthusiasm for keeping UP! up? trust I heard yes! debbie / outerglobe / london UP! detroit Detroit Honours Techno Pioneers Detroit city officials announced last week that they're to offer Derrick May and Kevin Saunderson their annual International Achievement Award this November, elevating the techno innovators alongside previous local heroes and winners, the Four Tops and Smokey Robinson. The award is a belated recognition for the contribution the duo, and techno in general, has brought to Detroit and is likely to prove particularly satisfying for Derrick May, who spent his childhood years pounding the city's streets as a Jehovah's Witness. Derrick and Kevin will be receiving their awards at a lavish ceremony at the Henry Ford in Dearborn on November 18. http://www.watchtower.org/library/rq/index.htm [scrufff.com] UP! oxford FRI SEPT 10 12 RETHINKING AND RESHAPING OUR COLLECTIVE FUTURE
A singularly important conference bringing leading visionaries together to help rethink and reshape our collective future. How Do We Make Sense Of The Madness? Why is the world filled with evil, suffering, and death? Why do our business and governmental leaders not halt the destruction of our planetary life support systems? Why must we endure threats of terrorism and epidemics of cancer, AIDS, and myriad other curses? How should we deal with our rage and grief? Is there any hope for ending so much pain? Everyday, hurting people of all walks of life grapple with such questions. And these questions call out for a fundamental change in perspective for a new world view. This Oxford gathering of international leaders in environmental, political, and social activism, alternative and holistic health, indigenous shamanic studies and practices and other domains of the spirit will assist in the design of delegate-led collaborative follow-up action projects which the participants are encouraged to conceive for joint implementation in their home communities after the conference. FRI SEPT 10 One of the world's leading purveyors of deeply conscious ambient trance, Banco de Gaia has established a distinctive fusion of electronic & world music which is a celebration of global rights. http://greatmystery.org/bancodegaia.html Opening talk by legendary Peace/Zippy Activist, FRASER CLARK. ’Liberty Cap Cosmic Symbol of Peace & Planet Worship?’ Full paper:- www.greatmystery.org/fraserclark.html 8:30 pm, @ Oxford Union. £10. Each ticket may also be used to attend any one of the 12 lecture/workshops being presented over the weekend @ Oxford University Union Debating Chamber. INFO: www.greatmystery.org/ox04.html UP! Soros To Sue Hastert Over Drug Claims? Billionaire anti-Bush George Soros is threatening to sue House Speaker Dennis Hastert. Last week Hastert suggested on "Fox News Sunday" with Chris Wallace that Soros might be receiving drug money. His actual words were: "You know, I don't know where George Soros gets his money. I don't know where - if it comes from overseas, or from drug groups or where it comes from." Soros made a public demand for an apology But Hastert apparently has no intention of apologising. On Wednesday he released a letter slamming Soros for supporting efforts to legalise drug use. Soros again made a public demand for an apology. Soros' spokesman Michael Vachon then stated that Soros is considering a libel suit against Hastert. Hastert said in his letter, "I never implied that you were a criminal and I never would, that's not my style." Soros shot back at Hastert: "I can only assume that you launched your bogus charge in a feeble attempt to deflect my criticism of the administration's failed policies... This administration is leading the country in a ruinous direction. Now that I have called you on your false accusation, you are using additional smear tactics." UP! Future Alzheimer’s For Science Fiction? by Gregory Mone, August 2004 Awed at the pace of technological advances, a faction of geeky writers believes our world is about to change so radically that envisioning what comes next is nearly impossible. The starship Field Circus is racing through space on a 7-year journey to a brown dwarf three light-years from Earth and, if all goes well, a business meeting with an alien civilisation from another universe. It’s around the year 2030, and there’s time to kill, so 3 crew members, Boris, Pierre and Su Ang, are sitting in the bar, a wood-panelled room modelled after a 300-year-old pub in Amsterdam. There’s a 16-page beer menu, but Boris has opted for a cocktail made of baby jellyfish. Pierre is angling for a sip when Donna the Journalist appears. She isn’t exactly welcome, but she sits down anyway, orders a bottle of German beer from the waiter, and asks the three if they believe in the Singularity. Ah yes, the Singularity. A very real term, although the scene above is taken from a soon-to-be-published novel, Accelerando, by British writer Charles Stross. The idea was conceived by Vernor Vinge, a computer scientist and science-fiction writer who’s now a professor emeritus at San Diego State University. We’re living through a period of unprecedented technological and scientific advances, Vinge says, and sometime soon the convergence of fields such as artificial intelligence and biotechnology will push humanity past a tipping point, ushering in a period of wrenching change. After that momentthe Singularitythe world will be as different from today’s world as this one is from the Stone Age. Back on board the Field Circus, Donna the Journalist asks the crew members when they think the Singularity took place. “Four years ago,” Pierre suggests. Su Ang votes for 2016. But Boris, the jellyfish drinker, says the entire notion of a Singularity is silly. To him, there’s no such thing. Wait a minute, Su Ang responds. Here we are, traveling in a spaceship the size of a soda can. We’ve left our bodies behind to conserve space and energy so the laser-sail-powered Field Circus can cruise faster. Our brains have been uploaded and are now running electronically within the tiny spaceship’s nanocomputers. The pub is “here,” along with other virtual environments, so that we don’t go into shock from sensory deprivation. “And you can tell me that the idea of a fundamental change in the human condition is nonsense?” Accelerando is the story of 3 generations of a dysfunctional family living through the Singularity. What makes the novel unusual is not the size of the ship or the strange cocktails or even the sexual metaphors - a coital act culminates with the transfer of “source code” - but the fact that Stross is attempting to imagine the relatively near-term future. This is a strangely courageous act, because modern science fiction is facing a crisis of confidence. The recent crop of stories mostly take the form of fantasy (elves and wizards), alternate history (what if the Black Death had been deadlier?) and space operas about interstellar civilisations in the year 12,000 (which typically gloss over how those civilisations evolved from ours). Only a small cadre of technoprophets is attempting to extrapolate current trends and imagine what our world might look like in the next few decades. “We’re staring into a fogbank,” Stross says, “and we literally do not know where we’re going, only that we’re going there very fast.” The science-fiction legends - Arthur C. Clarke, Isaac Asimov, Robert Heinlein - still loom imperiously. Clarke pulled humanity’s technological reach to the heavens, with visions of communications satellites, space elevators and rotating space stations. Asimov changed our perspective here on Earth, filling our homes with robots that dust, cook - and sometimes turn against their owners. And with his rollicking space adventures, Heinlein pushed us into distant galaxies and far-future civilisations. The golden age of science fiction (SF, to those in the know), which spanned the 1940s and ’50s, inspired generations of kids to become astronauts, physicists and engineers, to try to make at least some of the stories real. (And those kids remember their imaginative roots: NASA, for example, sometimes calls in SF writers as consultants.) Wandering through the exhibition room at a science-fiction convention in Boston a few months ago, I saw plenty of reprints of golden-age SF classics for sale. But I also encountered paintings of half-naked people battling dragons, vendors hawking crystals and a folk musician warming up for a recital. Where is the science in science fiction? I wondered. Whatever happened to envisioning the future? Anthropologist Judith Berman, who recently surveyed a crop of science fiction published in 1999, has a grim answer: Many modern stories are nostalgic, wary of new technologies rather than enthusiastic about them. Yet there’s plenty to get excited about: Vinge’s vision of the Singularity springs from his own field, computer science, but change is afoot throughout science and technology. Cosmology is undergoing fundamental revisions, genetics is giving researchers the tools to rejigger the building blocks of life, and nanotechnology has begun creeping from fantasy into reality. “Several lines of progress are converging,” says physicist Stanley Schmidt, editor of Analog magazine. “You can’t lock in on one field in isolation because you’ll miss how other fields affect it.” A new kind of future requires a new breed of guide - someone like Stross, whose first novel, Singularity Sky, was recently nominated for a prestigious Hugo Award, or his frequent collaborator Cory Doctorow, who in 2000 won the Campbell Award for best new science-fiction writer. Both are former computer programmers. They are computer geeks and gadget freaks. They follow engineering and materials science and biotech, not to mention politics and economics. And they have latched on to the Singularity as the idea that symbolises our era’s rush of new discoveries. Whether their stories will usher in another golden age or inspire a new generation of dreamers remains to be seen, but their focus is dead-on. “Right now is an extremely exciting time because there’s an explosion of knowledge in biology, an explosion of knowledge in technology, an explosion of knowledge in astronomy, physics, all over the place,” says David G. Hartwell, a senior editor at Tor Books. “Right now it’s quantity, and Doctorow and Stross are the writers who are principally concerned with all this stuff.” UP! (\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)(\o/)
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A Very British Coup, The Observer, August 29, 2004Greg Dyke’s Clashes With The 2 'Posh Ladies'
Two BBC governors, Pauline Neville-Jones and Sarah Hogg, were far more vocal than the rest, and I nicknamed them 'the posh ladies'. It was clear neither liked me much and Sarah, I now know, actively disliked me. The feeling was mutual.Pauline, a career civil servant at the Foreign Office and a former chair of the Joint Intelligence Committee, was among a number of governors who opposed my appointment as director-general. She was a powerful voice on the board, worked hard and was very clever in a manipulative, FO sort of way. But neither I nor the two BBC chairmen I worked with, Christopher Bland and Gavyn Davies, ever totally trusted Pauline. She had applied to be deputy chairman and was turned down. She was incredibly ambitious but I always suspected she had not been as successful in life as she had wished. Although a big supporter of the BBC, Sarah Hogg never left her politics or prejudices at the door of governors' meetings. She was married to a land-owning Tory MP, Douglas Hogg, and lived in a political world. When we tried to update our political coverage, Sarah led the opposition: we shouldn't upset the politicians. She was upset by the lack of coverage of the Countryside March in September 2002 (probably the only march she'd ever been on). She insisted the BBC was not covering rural affairs properly, and got a full investigation, costing thousands of pounds. This struck me as a classic case of special pleading from a governor who lived on the family estate in rural Lincolnshire. Her term as a governor was due to finish, and she didn't want it renewed. Neither did Gavyn or I. By the time Hutton published his report, Sarah's time was almost up. The day the “Sexed-Up Dossier” story broke, the governors met from 5pm until the early hours. Gavyn and I left after 40 minutes when they began discussing what should happen to the management team. We had agreed with Pauline Neville-Jones the previous night that it would be impossible for Gavyn and I to resign at the same time. However, Gavyn announced his resignation before the meeting. As we left, I reminded Simon Milner, the BBC secretary [for governance and accountability] of what Gavyn and I had told him of our talk. It was Milner's job to tell the governors that if I was to go on, I needed their public support. Sarah Hogg had her last chance to settle old scores. I now know she arrived determined to get rid of me. I waited in my office for maybe an hour and a half before Milner came to say Pauline and the deputy chairman, Richard Ryder, wanted to see me. Ryder was pretty blunt. He said the governors had decided I should go: if I stayed I'd be a lame-duck director-general. This was ridiculous: there was never a chance of me being a lame-duck anything. I asked if this was the view of them all. Richard told me he hadn't expressed a view but was reporting the views of the rest. Pauline said nothing. I hadn't seen it coming. I was completely shocked. I had no idea what to say. I pointed out I had a contract they would have to honour, but if they didn't want me I wouldn't stay. I went back to my office and sat stunned. I had worked flat out for four years to turn round a deeply unhappy and troubled organisation, and I was now being thrown out by the people I respected least, the governors. My main emotion was disbelief. Before Gavyn headed home at about 11 pm, he decided to say a final goodbye to his former colleagues, but when he walked into the room he found the atmosphere had changed completely. It was a very hostile environment, with the aggression mainly coming from Sarah, who, he said, 'was seething'. I've since discovered that she told Gavyn the day before that he shouldn't resign, but I should. He told her there were no circumstances in which he'd let me go while he stayed, and I think that was one reason Gavyn resigned: if one of us should go it should be him, and that way he would protect me. Others at that meeting say that when Gavyn walked in Sarah launched a ferocious attack, accusing him of 'cowardice under fire'. It was three days before I began to realise that perhaps all was not as it had seemed. This idea came to me when someone at the BBC told me she believed some of the governors had been out to get me, regardless of Hutton. It got me thinking: did some of them have another agenda? By then I knew that three of the 11 governors had supported me in the vote: the ballet dancer Deborah Bull, the Oxford academic Ruth Deech, and voluntary sector consultant Angela Sarkis. The 'posh ladies' had opposed me, led by Sarah Hogg. I began to think about the conversation Gavyn, Pauline Neville-Jones, and I had the night before Hutton was published. If Pauline had said she thought it impossible for Gavyn and me to leave at the same time, shouldn't she have argued on my behalf, given that Gavyn had already gone? Yet she had not. I thought some more. Pauline had always been a big supporter of Mark Byford. Like most BBC lifers, he was better [than me] at the politics of dealing with the governors. It was a game I refused to play. I saw no reason to treat the governors differently from everyone else. I certainly wasn't going to regard the earth they walked on as holy ground. After I had left the BBC one senior executive said to me that if I had been a bit more servile to them, I would still be there today. I have no doubt that's true. Certainly both chairmen in my time there suggested I ought to be more respectful and make fewer jokes at governors' meetings, but I was never going to do that. I have never respected position for its own sake and I was hardly likely to start in my fifties, particularly when dealing with a group of people, most of whom knew nothing about the media and who would have struggled to get a senior job at the BBC. So why hadn't Pauline supported me? Again I thought back a few months. In early December 2003, Gavyn told me Pauline and Sarah had been to see him, demanding that Mark Byford be appointed my deputy and be put in charge of BBC News. I was then to have been told it was a fait accompli. I objected, though in many ways the idea of Mark becoming my deputy was a good one. With Hutton pending, even someone as naturally combative as me recognised this was not a time for a bust-up with the governors. To appease them, I suggested we appoint Mark as my deputy, but with different powers from those they suggested. The governors agreed, and he began work on 1 January last year. A month later I was gone and he was acting director-general. The establishment figures had seized their chance and got rid of the upstart. It was, in many ways, a very British coup. The BBC has a good man as its new chairman in Michael Grade, but to do his job well he needs better, more knowledgeable governors to support him. I hope the six current governors who voted to get rid of me - Dermot Gleeson, Merfyn Jones, Fabian Monds, Neville-Jones, Robert Smith, and Ranjit Sondhi - will realise that what they did that January night was bow to pressure from a political thug called Alastair Campbell. What happened to me is irrelevant. Director-generals come and go; but there is no greater betrayal of BBC principles than to fold under political pressure, particularly from the government of the day. These governors got it seriously wrong and they should accept that. They should now resign. The BBC deserves better. http://observer.guardian.co.uk/focus/story/0,6903,1293003,00.html [Someone somewhere must like Dame Pauline because her term as a governor has been extended for an extra year beyond the normal maximum.] THE GOVERNORS WHO VOTED FOR DYKE TO GO... http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/media/story.jsp?story=556471 UP! VOTE LIB DEM!// FEEDBACK So you think you can change things by voting LibDem?! Living in Wales where, in June, the LDs became the biggest party on the city councils of Cardiff and Swansea and promptly started adopting positions they’d attacked Labour for before, its hard to take you seriously on this one. Luckily, I can vote for Plaid Cymru The Party of Wales, which really has unswervingly opposed the illegal war against Iraq. LilaHaines, Plaid Cymru. >> things will change, not because of them (tho i have a slightly higher opinion of them than you do) but because the shock to labour will hold blair in check while polls predicting it coming might lead to him getting chukked. see? far from voting lib dem this time making you a lib dem supporter, you're an intelligent citizen trying to make intelligent use of the present Dino system. no? up! NEVER TRUST A LIBERAL DEMOCRAT! They are not evil, they try to be nice, but they are a bizarre mixture of disillusioned middle-of-the-road Tories in the south of England and anti (old or New) Labour people in the north, with no principles or unifying philosophy whatsoever apart from their 19th century heritage of blind and dogmatic support for "Free Trade" and late 20th century heritage of similarly unconditional and uncritical support for the E.U. They also have an overwhelming desire to form coalitions on any terms whatsoever that will actually get them into office (as demonstrated in the Scottish Parliament, Welsh assembly and numerous local councils), and when they get there act just like the muddled mixture of middle-of-the-road Tory-Labourites that they are. AND THEY DON'T EVEN SUPPORT PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION, having instead a dogmatic attachment to the Irish system of Single Transferable Vote - which is an improvement on First-Past-The-Post only to the extent that it is an institutionalised form of tactical voting which benefits the middle party in a 3-party system, whilst not actually achieving anything like proportionality or opening up the political system to any other parties or views. Of course, people must make their own decisions according to their own local conditions >> including local timescale see my response after next letter from the Greens. , and in some constituencies under our present electoral system voting Lib. Dem. may be a valid tactical option at a general election - for example where no-one else has a realistic chance of removing a Tory. I am fortunate to have the much better tactical option of voting for my excellent Plaid Cymru MP Adam Price, whilst I remain a fully convinced member and supporter of the Green Party - who are the only party with the coherent principles and philosophy fit for the 21st century. Brig Oubridge, Wales up! First time I've heard the LDs called "slightly lefty, fizzy, experimental, progressive, forward-looking" other than perhaps by themselves. Didn't you notice they overtly positioned themselves to the RIGHT before the Euro-elections? Did you notice that retrospectively they 'strenuously opposed the Iraq war' but never ONCE said they strenuously opposed it at the time? Experimental and forward-thinking how? To the extent that they've borrowed ideas from the Greens and watered them down? I'll grant you 'fizzy' as in unstable, frothy, light - they continually say one thing and do another. Spencer Fitz-Gibbon, Green Party Press Office, 1a Waterlow Road, London N19 5NJ. >> heh heh. yes, ALL u say is true. but i start with the assumption that the aim now (temporarily, even in the opinion polls if we could manage it) is to limit blairite power as much as poss. (since it looks like we're stuck with him for a while more). and the LDs are the only way at moment. short of divine intervention (which i personally refuse to rule out actually) no other party can take seats (or vote percentage) from labour. i mean the more seats he loses to them the more restraint we put upon him in parliament. and if he had to make a coalition with the LDs.... you know (and here i'm really beginning to draft a piece i gotta write on this soon) i reckon we seriously misjudge what formal politics are about. the LAST thing to change in a process is at the political level. first it happens out here in our real world. so, to imagine that who we vote for is going to change much or to decide to vote for neither for that reason is a mistake. it's just one level and we got to make the best choice between 2 or maybe 3 fairly identikit parties, which is the nature of this beast. to imagine that somehow a newish party’s only real aim is to win a majority in parliament is to misjudge the reality. so, by the rules of the beast, the way to bring about max change (at moment) is via the LDs who, yes, are not really and will less and less be any different but they are, within the limits of the beast, the MOST different and the MOST likely to bring about some real changes. of course they take their best ideas from the greens. that's what the system is designed to do! (to regulate change) and to say that they didn't "strenuously oppose" the war is to miss what IS important on this level, which is that kennedy really put himself up for serious disrespect/disgust from inside the beast by going on the march. it was a crack in the meld. as was the daily mirror. if i was the green party (with no chance of more than a max half dozen seats in the next parliament?) i would be promulgating my idea to temporarily vote LD because that's the way to limit blair's power. now that would get the greens some real coverage and would be a genuine service to the public (which can only pay dividends in the further future) respect, up! whilst i am still in a dilemma about which way to vote - it would still stick in the throat to vote for waverers like the LDs, yet i can't support blair - i welcome you starting a debate on that. debbie, london up! Fraser...you're reading my mind! Everyone laughs when I say to them: "You want a revolution? Vote Lib Dem" Michael Howard was very convincing on Desert Island Discs, though. He won my heart and mind with his last choice: Bryan Adam's EVERYTHING I DO. niall mcdevitt, london up! Don't be so ridiculous. andy jones. up! >the Lib Dems the slightly lefty, fizzy, experimental, progressive forward-looking alternative. yeah right. Your hope for them is like the hope people had for New Labour in 97. >> u got me there, merrick. am a sucker for each new offering, always see hope. but also always see fractal progress too. can’t you see that each might be a seemingly similar fractal of b4 but each moving away from the old Attractor towards the new one? They claim to have always been against the war, but go check. They were not against the war, they just wanted a second UN resolution. >> meaning give the inspectors time to do their job. that’s what i wanted too. u not? He specifically said they were 'not the all out anti-war party'. On the day it started he declared opposition to the war should cease, saying 'now is the time for silence'. If my next door neighbour was planning mass murder and I opposed it, once they actually went out and started killing I wouldn't think it was the time to be quiet. >> he’d gone on the march. for pols WITH ANY CHANCE OF GAINING POWER that was an extremely brave move. it doesn’t help anyone or anything to deny real historical straws in the wind. we’re discussing politicians here, not gurus or saints. Even now they support the occupation, only asking that there should be a parliamentary vote before any more troops are deployed. Put them in power and they're the same as the rest, neo-liberalist big business power-loving fuckwits. >> name a single politician anywhere WITH A SERIOUS CHANCE OF GAINING POWER who isn’t. sure, they’re trying to use us, but we can use them too. They love to portray themselves as all cuddly and green. Easy for an opposition party to do. Check their record in power. On the day the government said GM might go ahead, LibDems in Westminster were officially opposing it but in Scotland, where they have power and could do something about it, they weren't blocking it, merely saying they'd ask farmers not to plant GM! >> merely? The infamous Newbury Bypass, a scheme now conceded by the then Tory Roads Minister as utterly unnecessary was rabidly cheered on by those with local power - the LibDem council and the LibDem MP. In the case of Manchester Airport's second runway - an equally destructive project taking 3 times the land of Newbury - in stockport under the flight path they opposed it but in Manchester, where the power was, they were in favour! Their 'Alternative Budget' was full of privatisation, they've issued a statement saying, and I quote, 'Liberal Democrats start with a bias in favour of market solutions'. Fuck them and the tory horse they ride in on. >> you’d rather have the tories? there is not a single iota of difference between kennedy and thatcher/howard? right. no progress there then, boo hoo, wotta doomed world it is! merrick, oop north. up! The way things are going, I really think the Lib-Dems. are nearer to a TRUE Labour Party than Blair and his gang. >> precisely my general point.. so, to keep blair in check till we can impeach him, VOTE LIB DEM. However, I'd vote for ANYONE to keep out the Tories! Theirs is the politics of greed and has always been so, ESPECIALLY since Thatcher. At least the Labour Party still has Socialists in it, even if they're not getting their say. My definition of a socialist....Robin Hood... Stealing from the rich >> eh, stealing BACK! to pay the poor and not the other way around as we have now with every tax high except the one that SHOULD be high... income tax! To be honest, I'm disenfranchised. There's just nobody on the LEFT that I can vote for, really. So, I just vote to keep the Tories out... Earl Okin, Birmingham, UK. >> and i say you don’t need to worry, they’re NEVER coming back. the Bogey Man is dead, died when the Dinos Last Stand failed.. UP! >> and, yes, i stand behind my prediction of bush losing by the biggest electoral margin ever recorded. it’s the Fall of the Dinos, who’re now fighting back in the only way they know how depravedly! Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Divine Love, Light & Laughter, STARDOVES. UP! u.k. Bambu Kuning Training (Yellow Bambu) Next workshop in Buxton, where the water comes from.. batman@eurobell.co.uk www.inversiontherapy.net www.theovertonechoir.net UP! Dear Frase, Lots of good stuff this UP! Thanks. My answer to the moral dilemma: photograph the drowning Bush in classic black'n'white; cos that's how Bush is seeing, and will see, everything, even as he gasps his last... And I'd like to contribute this little slogan to the discourse: War IS Terror! best, Dan Joy, Virginia. UP! new york SEPT 25-26 Main Stage (World, Jam, Folk, Jazz, Bluegrass, Reggae, Rock, Blues, and Electronic) The Body Temple (Interactive art and multimedia dance area with DJ music) Open Forum (Open to event attendees for performance, presentations and forums) Eco Village:(Environmental awareness & sustainability educators and suppliers) World Indigenous Village (An area to honor the world’s indigenous people ) Healing Arts Village (An area dedicated to a spectrum of healing techniques and practitioners; Herbalism to Massage, Yoga to Tarot) Wisdom Keepers Village (An area to honor cultures and their wisdom) Visual Arts Gallery (An area dedicated to the power of visual imagery to enlighten the mind and spirit through the window of the eye.) 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Arresting officer Nikolai Sumburov told the Moscow Times they view the covers as 'gateway drugs' in their own right. "16 and 17-year-old teenagers buy the cell phone so they can consider themselves to be part of the so-called subculture," he explained. "Then they start thinking about trying the drug." >> there’s a sub culture everywhere. The surprise move came 3 months after President Putin decriminalised personal use of all drugs, making possession of up to 10 'average single doses' punishable by fine rather than prison. Previously it was long prison sentences for a single spliff, with many jailed for up to 4 years before facing trial. But Stopthedrugwar.org reported in May that "the real impetus for the change probably lies in the country's festering, overcrowded, and disease-filled prison system,". The shopkeeper targeted by the Federal Drug Control Service faces a fine rather than jail, the Moscow Times reported. Weirdly the same article also reported that local drug reform agencies are alarmed by what they see as an escalating turf war between rival police agencies. http://www.phaseloop.com/foreignprisoners/exp-russian_tats.html [scrufff.com] UP! The Way Out: Only By Starting To Talk
http://www.gush-shalom.org/english/index.htmlGush Shalom (the Israeli Peace Bloc) calls upon the Government of Israel to cease its efforts to impose by force unilateral solutions, and start immediate negotiations for a comprehensive cease-fire with the Palestinians and cessation of all belligerent acts between us. The murderous suicide bombing at Be'er Sheba, which deserves all condemnation, proves once again that there are no military solutions. It highlights the futility of those who claim to "burn the fact of defeat into Palestinian consciousness", "reach the bottom of the barrel of terrorism" and other arrogant statement by the heads of the army and security services. Nor can unilaterally imposed solutions bring us peace or quiet. Withdrawal from the Gaza Strip, and the dismantling of the settlements there, could have been constituted an enormous measure for building up confidence between Israelis and Palestinians - had it been decided upon in negotiations, as a first step towards a comprehensive solution and the end of the oppressive Israeli rule in all the territories occupied in 1967. When the same withdrawal from Gaza is undertaken as a unilateral Israeli act, aimed explicitly at intensifying and deepening the occupation on the West Bank, it serves only to increase distrust and fan higher the flames of conflict. Should the Government of Israel ever liberate itself from the false mantra that "there is no partner" and from the constant demonisation of Yasser Arafat, it will find that a Palestinian partner does exist a partner willing to go back to the political process; that among the Palestinian public there is considerable longing for new, non-violent means of action, as was manifested last week at the mass Israeli-Palestinian rally at Abu-Dis addressed by Dr. Arun Gandhi. UP! wanna b part of a revolutionary feature film? Join and own a stake in a revolutionary feature film collaboration: NOW Coldcut, VJs.net, Futerra, Oneworld TV, and YOU...... www.nowthemovie.org UP! Unfit For Command Or Just About Anything William Regnery II, heir to the Regnery publishing fortune and a principal player in his father’s company which produced the Swift-Boat veterans’ “Unfit for Command,” is a leading advocate of white supremacy and is moving into a business aimed at “providing services and products to whites.” His jumping-off point is a planned match-making service for “heterosexual whites of Christian cultural heritage,” according to numerous sites that have begun investigating Regnery’s past, among them Working for Change and the Southern Poverty Law Center. Even Newsweek did a piece about him, but apparently no one made the connection. In an appeal to potential investors titled “Population is Destiny,” Regnery wrote that the Caucasian dating service would be no ordinary money-making opportunity, but a chance to ensure “the survival of our race,” which “depends upon our people marrying, reproducing and parenting.” http://www.bluelemur.com/index.php?p=252 UP! SEVEN QUESTIONS TO ASK ABOUT AIDS
Nevertheless, all their work is presented in the WWW, the only available free space. While searching for the most interesting sites we have been astonished by the quantity of censored scientific documentation we have found. w2ww.oikos.org/aids/default.htm UP! caravanserai club UPDATE am booked to fly ryanair on sept 29, returning oct 30. TOTAL: £20.80!!!!! right now i plan to stop off in a couple of places in slovenia. seemingly it’s “alpine”, now who woulda thought of that?! take away the man-made boundaries and it’s got ski resorts and it was the first to break away from yugoslavia and it’s in the common market but retains its old communist party structure. now there’s a mix! . It is probably also relatively wealthy (which is why it got out so fast) and more like Austria than anywhere else. I'll check out flights to Croatia later this week - am thinking about going 2nd/3rd week in October. Inga, London. hi fraser.hope you are well.i've just bought a ticket to ancona with ryanair 25 quid return.good connections ancona-split ferry. i hope?. ferries each way mon, wed, fri.should be more relaxing than by bus. time 21.00 hours.about 10 hours.croatia it's going to be great,.looking forward to getting away. do some more living. take care and safe journey. peter, malta. Hi Fraser, can you remind me the best flight path to split? Jonni Hey, mallorca. See you in Split! Probably second half of Oct. Hope it's still warm enough to swim; haven't seen clean, clear water in a few years... Jules, Amsterdam. trieste sounds fabo - i will see what can be done. I have to go to essen in germany for some days as there is a trade fair i need to get to for my music biz stuff and i have to ration 2 much going and coming because of my younge rdaughter and school - however half term right at the end of oct might be feasible for both of us - how long are the journeys? debbie outerglobe, london. hi fraser.there's a ferry company called blue line international doing proper ferries from ancona (same price on ryanair) you can book a seat each way for 5 euros. they look good boats. good web site too. i'll be landing at split oct 5. full fare return 65 euros. see ya. peter.f a l l g o o d t h i n g s c o m e t o a n e n d
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